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August 1, 2022 at 3:29 pm #18948
Jay Clayton
ModeratorIn this discussion, we’re going to continue working with the personas you developed in the live webinar. Let’s consider how they will impact your messaging that we’ll develop later in the workshop. In this forum, consider these questions:
- Given the personas you’ve identified in the webinar, what are some of the topics that you’ll want to keep in mind as you develop your talking points?
- What points may not resonate well with these personas?
After you’ve created your own post, please respond to at least three of your peers.
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August 19, 2022 at 12:29 am #19934
Judith Nole
ParticipantSo, we didn’t really discuss personas during the webinar today, but I did create two: The first, Meagen, is a 36-year-old attorney. She has a moderately high income, and enjoys travel, yoga, and outdoor activities. She is an introvert, is married to an engineer, and loves her dog, a goldendoodle. Meagen is a registered Democrat who leads a very active life. She’s a foodie who likes to explore, and she loves cities. Meagen values her family, her independence, her community, self-awareness, and information. I imagine Meagen as a listener to KWGS, our NPR news/info station.
The second is Andrew, a 55-year-old English professor at a local university. Andrew has a Ph.D and is married, and he and his partner have a 14-year-old daughter and two dogs. His income is moderate, and he enjoys dinner parties with friends, learning about wines, and hiking, and has taken a number of trips to U.S. national parks to hike and spend time in nature. Andrew values nature, the environment, and beauty. He values his tight-knit community of friends and family. When he was younger, he was more invested in current events and politics, but as he has matured (and over the course of the pandemic), he finds himself more drawn to things that bring a sense of calm and joy to his life. I imagine Andrew as a listener to KWTU, our 25/7 classical music station.
I think both of these personas think of themselves as independent thinkers, and will want to know that the action they take is making a difference. They’ll need to understand why it’s important to give. I think Meagen might respond to incentives (a cool thank-you gift, a big challenge), but not Andrew…so will need to make a strong case for him. I think Meagen is a big podcast listener, so will need to gently call to her attention that (HELLO!) she’s also listening to the station regularly as well. I think both would find the case that each station strengthens the community powerful.
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August 22, 2022 at 2:54 pm #20049
plahiri@wmht.org
ParticipantI think that what you’ve said absolutely makes sense with the personas you’ve created. To add on, I think explaining how the specific stations enrich the community would further hook these listeners. Maegen would respond well to learning how financial support allows for truthful news to reach a wider audience, and Andrew would respond well to knowing that his financial support would allow your classical music station, an outlet and relaxing escape, to keep running.
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August 22, 2022 at 7:21 pm #20053
jpatton@wfu.edu
ParticipantWith people like Meagan it’s interesting to figure out how to meet them where they are. We know they listen to podcasts but how can we get them to also see that our station and shows are just as accessible online as a podcast.
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August 25, 2022 at 5:16 pm #20144
jstimpson@kera.org
ParticipantHi Judith! For Megan, I definitely think a call to action is just the thing she needs. Knowing the request and that she can donate to the station, or further support the podcast she already enjoys. Maybe with Andrew would he enjoy a incentive to possibly volunteer? Or maybe a partnership with the Boys & Girls Club with school packs that he could add to his gift when donating! Or program or experience where he could visit the local parks.
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August 22, 2022 at 2:20 pm #20048
plahiri@wmht.org
ParticipantHere are the two personas I created:
John Purple – 86 years old, holds a Master’s degree in English Literature, and is Upper Middle Class. He values education, culture, community, and the arts. His interests and hobbies include classical music, documentaries, painting, gardening, and fine dining.
Lilly Blue – 32 years old, holds a Bachelor’s degree in Communication, and is Middle Class. She values diversity and inclusion, the LGBTQ+ community, truth, knowledge, and the environment. Her interests and hobbies include political activism, news and public affairs, television, pop and rock music, and animals.Both of these personas are passionate about their community, so a good talking point would be how my station provides service to and enriches our community through our programming. I would remind them of why they watch and listen to my station, what they value about the services my station provides, and explain how their financial support will allow my station to continue making a difference in our community. I think Lilly could respond well to incentives like premiums and matching challenges because of her interests and hobbies.
I do not think that incentives such as premiums would work well for John, as he is an older listener and probably not interested in T-shirts, bags, or CD’s. I also think that Lilly would be discouraged from making a donation if the on-air personalities sound like they are reading from a script, because she would want to hear more personal testimonials.-
August 22, 2022 at 7:20 pm #20052
jpatton@wfu.edu
ParticipantDo you find that a lot of your older listeners do not care about incentives? Some of ours can’t wait to collect the yearly Love Mug (a campaign during February). We want to do a large survey soon to see what motivates people to give and one option will be incentives.
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August 25, 2022 at 5:06 pm #20142
jstimpson@kera.org
ParticipantI definitely see the conflict with “over listing” on-air, we try to refrain from saying more than one premium or gift during a pitch! Sometimes I do believe that offering more of a experience like a trip or concert can help when listing or mentioning a incentive to donate on-air, how has that experience been if you tried?
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September 1, 2022 at 4:57 pm #20338
jwhiteside@vpm.org
ParticipantI also feel like I’m seeing the interest for premiums wane over time. In part I like that we’re moving away from transactional giving. We still see great enthusiasm for match challenges though. I think people really like to get “bang for their buck” and it feels as if they’re making double the impact…which they are!
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August 22, 2022 at 7:18 pm #20051
jpatton@wfu.edu
ParticipantPersona 1
John, college grad, family man, homeowner, almost reaching our Major Donor level but not quite there yet-
Goal: How do I get him to be a Major Donor?
– Hobbies- Cars, computers, woodworking, takes kids to their sports events
– Values truth, Local news, community, green initiatives, kid inclusivity
– We offer local news and radio camp for kids, attempt to use local shops for our thank you items
– Continue strengthening our overall goals and improve our meetups to be more kid inclusiveJohn is not interested in global news. He really is concerned about his family so when developing talking points I need to focus on our local news and local events. A family focused program may get him to make the final leap to Major Donor.
Persona 2
Sarah, has never given, some college, mid 20s, works at a bar or coffee shop, listens to WFDD/our station at work with staff. Low income, has roommates.
Goal: To get them to give at the $5 entry level (60 a month)
– Shop Local, Community, buys organic at local farmers market, involved in the arts in our community, volunteers for art orgs around town
– Local meetups, local news, Carolina Curious (a local listener driven segment)
– Meetups/out reach in younger areas. Advertise more on social media-We need to focus on getting a marketing team with social media experience that can really speak to our younger audience and reach them where they are (TikTok/ Reels). There does not need to be a lot of crossover between our email campaigns and social media because they will target different groups. Sarah won’t want to hear about major donors because that is too far out of her reach and will alienate her.
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August 23, 2022 at 2:24 pm #20097
plahiri@wmht.org
ParticipantI think your strategies for bringing John up to the Major Donor level are spot on and make complete sense with his personality. Based on what you’ve written about Sarah, she might be interested in a premium, and pitching the Passport benefit to her might also get her to become a sustaining member at your station.
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August 25, 2022 at 4:27 pm #20140
jstimpson@kera.org
ParticipantHi Patton! Great personas! How old is John? Just curious on the age frame that is used or hoped for when looking for Major Donors? Also, has their been success or good engagement with your station using Tik tok or reels?
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August 31, 2022 at 1:59 pm #20305
kscho03s@uis.edu
ParticipantWhat would you consider a family friendly program for John? I’m radio only so perhaps you have a TV station as well. I’d love to find something for radio though that we could pitch to families.
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September 1, 2022 at 5:05 pm #20340
jwhiteside@vpm.org
ParticipantI empathize with your desire to engage with Sarah on the platforms she is most likely on regularly…”meet them where they are”
I agree that the messaging for the 20-30 age group needs to be different than our typical broadcast listeners. We are also trying to think creatively on how to engage this younger audience.
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August 25, 2022 at 1:41 pm #20132
jstimpson@kera.org
Participant1. Personas
Leila Matthews: A Latino 28 yrs. Old. BA in English and is currently single. She is in the mid-middle class. She’s an ally of the LGBTQIA+ and makes it known that she’s all about equality and inclusion. She loves being out in community areas and supporting small businesses. She loves music but due to the pandemic she hasn’t been to many concerts. She listens to KXT throughout the day and Monday’s for our New Music Monday with Gini. Our goal with Leila would be to get her to post on social media about our KXT Events and who we are.
Kelton Davis: An African American 55 years old close to retiree school administrator. He’s in the upper middle class. He enjoys comradery among his close-knit friends and is a family man. He loves the alternative, rock classics and eclectic sounds that KXT plays. He likes to mentor and educate the younger generations when possible of hard work, being active, and being true. He listens to KXT when he’s working around the house and sometimes in the car. He likes Friday’s for their “Funky Friday” set. Our goal with Kelton would be to get him interested in becoming a donor that leans toward major giving and become a volunteer.2. What does your listener value?
Both listeners value community and the opportunities surrounding to help it. Finding the best way to represent this as well. Matthews love hearing all kinds of voices and representation, while Davis has his set likes and doesn’t really move from it. Matthews enjoys the arts and seeing where she can support her culture and interests. Davis, while in his ways steadily with staying close to home and what he knows, he likes knowing of different educational or knowledge base things that he can spread through W.O.M or to any mentees.3. How does your station represent those values?
KXT represents arts and culture with trying to stay aware of our community and how we best need to showcase ourselves. We want to keep it local with not only our music but events we attempt to do. We are lacking some in educational forward opportunities at this time but would love to look at partnering again with Girls Inc. or a Musical School Program opportunity to draw in educational lovers.4. What does your station promise that aligns with these values?
KXT always holds a promise to stay local and keep the music coming that is not only new but brings the nostalgia. Especially during a fundraising drive with our different “Program day” themes like “Throwback Thursday” “KXT gems”, etc. We want to give our audience the music but also keep them interested in their community through us and support!-
August 29, 2022 at 3:29 pm #20270
plahiri@wmht.org
ParticipantIt sounds like your events could help you reach both goals with your personas. If Matthews had an enjoyable time at an event and found a lot of value in attending, she might post about it to her social media. Davis sounds like he would be interested in the educational forward opportunities you do because he loves to mentor the younger generation, so he might be interested in volunteering for one of these events.
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August 31, 2022 at 2:09 pm #20306
kscho03s@uis.edu
ParticipantWhat type of events do you hold that you would like them to promote on social media? We haven’t done many, due to the pandemic, and being new in this role I’d like to see if we can’t get some events going again.
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August 30, 2022 at 1:20 pm #20278
dooley@wnrn.org
ParticipantPersonas:
AB – 20 year old college student, loves live music and discovering new bands, not a lot of spare money to spend but tries to donate once a year at the lowest level during the fund drive to get our latest t-shirt, doesn’t tend to sign up for volunteering but does enter to win show tickets on a regular basis
CD – 50 year old lawyer, loves our community involvement, is a sustaining member at a significant dollar amount but not necessarily a “major donor,” enjoys the swag but that isn’t a primary donation motivation, occasionally a station volunteer at eventsWhile we definitely push to have people become sustaining members, someone like AB feels comfortable with a one time donation rather than breaking it up monthly. We do try to explain the benefit of sustaining vs. one time, especially for those who are habitual lump sum donors. On the other hand, working with someone like CD to get them from a high level donor to a major donor might involve the hurdle of how it benefits them.
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August 31, 2022 at 7:01 pm #20314
christina@wnrn.org
ParticipantLiz, this is a good breakdown of our members/donors. Music has the ability to connect with any age or demographic and our programming connects with just about anyone, whether they’re a hip 20-something or 70 year old hippie. I think that provides a lot of opportunities.
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September 1, 2022 at 5:00 pm #20339
jwhiteside@vpm.org
ParticipantWhat does your station consider a “major donor”? We are in the process of redefining this internally.
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September 11, 2022 at 12:44 pm #20424
Anonymous
Inactive@ WNRN we define a “major donor” as giving $1,000+, but we have perks for those at $50/mo ($600). To Liz’s point, I think we could definitely go into more detail about why sustainers are important to the station.
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August 31, 2022 at 1:52 pm #20304
kscho03s@uis.edu
ParticipantHere are my personas:
David, 77, master’s degree, retired from state government work. He is upper middle class who has given generously to the station for decades, usually in a few larger gifts per year. Passionate about the news, and seeks information from multiple sources. Father of two children, grandfather of 5. Dotes on the kids. David values education and truth. His work in state government, where he worked often with media, gave him an appreciation for accuracy. He also cares deeply about the community as he’s lived here his entire adult life. Our station provides accurate news all day every day for David to listen to. Our station promises that we will continue to find programming that provides informative and engaging news for our audience to tune into.Julie, 41, has broadcast background, runs the family business while also taking part in community theater, very savvy on social media. Married with two sons, whom she adores. Is middle-income family and donates at least once a year. Passionate about improving her community and providing a solid education for her children. Julie values the arts of all kinds, as well as increasing educational opportunities in the community. Our station provides programs about arts programs in the community. Our station promises that we will continue to find new ways to share with our audience information about the arts in our community.
Topics that I will want to keep in mind as I develop talking points include knowing what types of programming would appeal to them so I can either increase their gifts to push David into a major gift and Julie into a monthly reoccurring gift.
Points that might not resonate well with these two include reduced staffing and a lacking social media presence. We need to work on more than just posting
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August 31, 2022 at 7:05 pm #20315
christina@wnrn.org
ParticipantAs a music based station, we have the opportunity to engage with a variety of listeners no matter their interest or points of view. It’s an opportunity that news based stations don’t have but it could be a bit broad or unfocused in the sense of target marketing, but I think our station does a good job in overcoming this by matching thank you gifts to our specific programming. Our listeners/donors love supporting their favorite shows or DJs.
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September 1, 2022 at 10:10 am #20325
nicole@wmfe.org
ParticipantJohn is a 65 year-old retiree. He was a prominent oncologist for over 25 years in Windermere, an affluent section of Orlando. He has been happily married for 47 years, has 3 children and 5 grandchildren. He plays golf on the weekends and attends multiple fundraising galas for medical research. He likes to keep up with the latest reports in health & medicine, but he’s also highly interested in politics as he use to be a lobbyist. He appreciates that WMFE provides fair & balanced news, so he gives an annual donation. Our goal is to show John the benefits of becoming a Cornerstone Society member (major donor), which would help the station develop new programs and projects, turn new ideas into reality and find innovative ways of serving him better.
Carol is a 56 year-old African-American school teacher, recently widowed with no kids. She is an advocate for the Central Florida arts. She is a board member of several arts & culture organizations. She loves the WMFE program called Spotlight, which showcases the local art scene. She gives to the station sporadically, but doesn’t see the need for fund drives. The key is to show her that member support is the foundation of WMFE. The goal is have her become a sustainer, to make sure she is aware that her monthly donations fund her favorite program.
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September 11, 2022 at 12:42 pm #20423
Anonymous
InactiveConverting regular donors to sustainers is so important!
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September 1, 2022 at 3:01 pm #20332
jwhiteside@vpm.org
ParticipantPersona #1 – Sarah is a 42 year-old work from home mom. She is middle class, working for a local marketing firm. She volunteers for several non-profit organizations. She has two kids and a dog. She values education, her community and the arts. She likes to stay informed but absolutely loves music and the local arts scene. She really appreciates the on-the-hour news reports that air on our all-music station, so that she stays keyed in but can still fill her day with locally-curated music rather than all talk.
Persona #2 – Bill is a 68 year old retired lawyer. He is upper middle class, and spends his days golfing, playing with grand-children and fixing his car. He values his family, the truth and civic engagement. He’s been a public media fan for as long as he can remember. He listens to VPM News daily…particularly Morning Edition, watched PBS Kids with his children (and now grand-children) and never misses WWDTM on the weekends. He really appreciates VPM’s renewed focus on local news.
For Sarah, I think her giving will be more impulsive. With her busy lifestyle, she’ll respond to an email ask or ad she sees on Instagram. For Bill, I think he understands the value of the programming. He’s been a steady donor for years. He is ready to build a more meaningful relationship with the organization and should be cultivated as a Major Donor prospect.
For both, I want to make sure our pledge messaging focus on what VPM brings to the community beyond national programming from NPR, including local news reporting as we have the largest news team in Central Virginia and locally-curated music that highlights local artists and community performances.
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September 11, 2022 at 12:41 pm #20422
Anonymous
InactiveSarah also might respond well to a challenge hour
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September 4, 2022 at 2:57 pm #20355
amcnulty@wfmt.com
ParticipantWe are a classical music station. The two personas I created are:
One – Reginald, 75, lives in Florida with his husband but they are from Chicago where they first found the station and listen through streaming. Degree educated, passionate about music, arts, concerts and being active in his retirement. Listens to the station for both calm and musical education. Appreciates the tone of the station, respect for the listener. Used to take thank-you gifts but no longer. His giving is all but guaranteed, he’s a long time member and will give once a year only, if he’s tuned in to the drive or receives a letter around the time of his renewal month.Two – Rebekah, 42, lives in Chicago, she and her husband are working parents to two kids. She plays the station in the car for everyone, and sometimes at home. Rebekah listens because her parents did, it was a part of her childhood. She is passionate about access to the arts for everyone in the community, especially young people, and one of her kids plays the violin. She values the station’s emphasis on and commitment to showcasing works by under-represented composers and playing a variety of classical music. Her giving is more spontaneous, and more likely driven by talking points on air and special incentives from pledge drives like thank-you gifts that she can share with her kids.
Both listeners are good prospects for the sustainer program. Talking points would focus on what specific things the station brings to them individually.
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September 11, 2022 at 12:21 pm #20421
Anonymous
InactiveGiven the personas you’ve identified in the webinar, what are some of the topics that you’ll want to keep in mind as you develop your talking points?
We will need to keep in mind how we message the station, positioning ourselves as a socially responsible organization, that provides a grassroots, community-based service
What points may not resonate well with these personas?
They might not be as interested in the “perks” that our station offers- the t-shirt, or our VIP list that has opportunities to win concert tickets
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December 30, 2022 at 9:38 am #22171
lbarbera@wabe.org
ParticipantIt is crucial for stations to be a reflection of their community, that’s why it’s important that we consider the many elements and differences in our community to offer content/information/benefits/events that are relevant to our actual audience.
We tend to link public media with college-educated people in their 50’s+ but the reality is that we have to expand our horizons, our audience is way more diverse than that.
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